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Author: TomHChappell Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:16 am

How many, and who, among us have more-or-less completish vocabularies for body parts in some of our conlangs? And which conlangs?

Here's my attempt at an outline. If you find it incomplete, add stuff; if you find a different order would be better, re-arrange it; and if you find it makes "different" things your conlang would make "same", edit it.


Body

  1. Blood vessel
    1. Artery
    2. Vein
  2. Material of which it is composed
    1. Bone
    2. Gristle or cartilage (sp? cartilege?)
    3. Skin
    4. Muscle
    5. Fat
    6. Blood
  3. Trunk (torso)
    1. Chest
      1. Heart
      2. Lung
    2. Abdomen or Belly
      1. Stomach
      2. Liver
      3. Spleen
      4. Intestines
    3. Waist
  4. Neck
  5. Extremity
    1. Head
      1. Hair
      2. Ear
        1. Earhole
        2. Earlobe?
      3. Eye
        1. Eyeball
          1. Iris
          2. Pupil
          3. Sclera
        2. Eyebrow
        3. Eyelid
          1. Eyelash
        4. Eye socket
        5. Tear gland
      4. Nose
        1. Nostril
      5. Mouth
        1. Jaw
          1. Maxilla (upper jaw)
          2. Mandible (lower jaw)
        2. Tooth
          1. Incisor
          2. Eyetooth or Canine Tooth
          3. Molar (and/or premolar?)
        3. Tongue
    2. Limb
      1. Arm
        1. Shoulder
        2. Elbow
        3. Wrist
        4. Humerus (upper arm)
        5. Lower Arm
        6. Hand
          1. Palm
      2. Leg
        1. Hip
          1. buttock (if different)
        2. Knee
        3. Ankle
        4. Thigh (upper leg)
        5. Shank (lower leg, between knee and ankle)
          1. Shin
          2. Calf
        6. Foot
          1. Sole
          2. Heel
          3. Ball
    3. Digit (toe or thumb or finger)
      1. Nail
        1. Fingernail
        2. Toenail
      2. Toe
        1. Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe)
        2. Pinky toe or little toe
        3. Other individual toes?
      3. Thumb
        1. Thumbnail
      4. Finger
        1. Index finger
        2. Pinky finger
        3. Middle finger
        4. Ring finger
    4. My god, how could I have left out the genitalia?!?!
      1. female
        1. vagina
        2. womb
      2. male
        1. penis
        2. testicle
  6. Side
    1. Back
    2. Front
    3. Left
    4. Right
    5. Bottom (lower)
    6. Top (upper)
  7. Orifices
    1. anus
    2. urethral meatus?
    3. vagina was covered under "genitalia".
    4. mouth and nose and ear were covered under "head". So was "eye", but your conlang might not consider that an orifice.

Does your conlang, or do your conlangs, use any of these terms, or reduced forms of them, as affixes? Or as verbs or adjectives or prepositions or conjunctions or pronouns? (I left out "adverbs" and "interjections". I assume the "interjections" part is "yes", because some of these are probably good curse-words. I can't think how to make one of these body-part nouns into an adverb, though.)


What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of life? Popular answers are the liver (hence the name "liver") and the heart.

What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of emotion? Popular answers are the stomach, the guts, and the heart.

What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of consciousness? Popular answers are the eyes and the heart; but modern Western culture says "the brain".


Tom H.C. in MI Last edited by TomHChappell on Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:58 am; edited 4 times in total --eldin 23:35, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Things included and things omitted on purpose, with reasons

Author: TomHChappell Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:41 pm

cromulant wrote: Your forgot the Isles of Langerhans.


I tried to leave out most things that were microscopic (like the Islets), and most things that were not visible on the surface (like the Islets).

(I also left out the Organ of Zuckerkandl, which resides in the arch of the aorta. Nobody seems to know what it's for.)

(And I left out the voicebox or larynx, and other parts of the speech system. Perhaps I should have included some of them. Others are welcome to, if they feel it would be good to do so.)

Bones and blood and stomachs-and-or-intestines and hearts and wombs, however, seemed like I should include them.

Blood is often visible on the surface, after a minor injury.

If bone is visible on the surface, a major injury has occurred; but one can detect the bone from the outside by touch.

Hearts move and make a sound detectable from the outside.

The same is true of the stomach-and-or-intestines; furthermore the owner of the stomach can often tell when it's empty, or when it wants to operate in reverse (the name of that sensation is "nausea").

Wombs have visible results; and their owners know what's going on in them. (Actually, I've been kicked awake by an unborn baby whose mother slept through the kick!)

As for livers and spleens and sweetbreads and so on: They are often referred to in old-fashioned conversations preceding the advent of modern medicine; I assume that the practice of butchery, together with those of surgery and veterinary and medicine, familiarized people with some of them. In some Native North American languages, for instance, an automobile's battery is referred to as its "liver".

It would be reasonable for some conlangs not to have all of these, and for others to have body-part terms in addition to these.

--eldin 23:35, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

(lost post, including name of conlang)

Author: cromulant Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:29 am

My word for arm is khaib. I'll get back to you on all the others.


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Pabappa

Author: Soap Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:56 am

Body abba, blassi, ubbalap -Blood vessel tamapop --Artery tamap --Vein tamap wurpap peso -Material of which it is composed --Bone pansa --Skin perebi --Muscle soppi --Fat blampilpim, pilpi --Blood tapema -Trunk (torso) sumpobi --Chest pammum ---Heart wepse, wawa ---Lung ebo, ebobi --Abdomen or Belly pia pemarapup, pemarapupi ---Stomach pemarapupi ---Liver pabapi ---Spleen barrampi ---Intestines wampupi --Waist pemarapupi -Neck pia pawa palidapa -Extremity palupopi, pemiabi --Head wibu, pawapi ---Hair wesum ---Ear uma, sobopi


Earhole umabosadepi

---Eye pamala, wamul, oppi, pispi


Eyeball pamala, wamul, oppi, pispi


Iris pispadapi


Pupil pispaliapi


Sclera no word yet


Eyebrow pisamblesum


Eyelid osinipi


Eyelash opwesum (ack!! I used "eye hair" twice with two different words for eye!)


Eye socket opposadepi


Tear gland liblapampi

---Nose tapi, wampadampi, ewepi


Nostril taposadepi

---Mouth popopi


Jaw poposopi


Maxilla (upper jaw) assa poposopi


Mandible (lower jaw) palida poposopi


Tooth pampi (plural only), amilam, wisse


Incisor no word yet


Eyetooth or Canine Tooth no word yet


Molar (and/or premolar?) no word yet


Tongue blampi

--Limb pemia ---Arm pemia


Shoulder maba


Elbow pemiabimbra


Wrist pia webes pampsam


Humerus (upper arm) no word yet


Lower Arm no word yet


Hand pebui, ampi, pampsam, salpo, pawam


Palm purpapimpam bla pampsam pia mipalbapsa

---Leg pampipi


Hip piam, perara (both plural)


Knee pimbra


Ankle pebapi bliwipi


Thigh (upper arm) dont you mean upper leg?


Shin no word yet


Foot aspi


Sole no word yet


Ball no word yet

--Digit (toe or thumb or finger) no word yet ---Nail ebbi


Fingernail ebbi


Toenail ebbi warp aspi

---Toe saweman sampi pia


Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe) no word yet


Pinky toe or little toe no word yet


Other toes? no word yet

---Thumb abi, abepi, pampsap abepem


Thumbnail arpebbi

---Finger sempi


Index finger no word yet


Pinky finger no word yet


Middle finger no word yet


Ring finger no word yet

--My god, how could I have left out the genitalia?!?! perpebi ("genitals") ---female pupap, labap


vagina wempa, lara, rompa, arawap


womb rompa, pampam, mimal, topo, lolob, nipa

---male nope, palsip, lupap


penis pubu, noba, nampe, pampapi, nidi, pidapi


testicle lespapi (plural only)

-Side popapitabi --Back porpepi (usually interpreted as meaning "buttocks") --Front jubipi --Left blumperbap --Right porpubat --Bottom (lower) purpa --Top (upper) pimpampi -Orifices --anus parpab --urethral meatus? loposadepi ("urine hole")

More: buttocks: porpe, perara, puru, sal clitoris: pubi urine: lop, ibbi, wapom, soba, sopa, pupi, pupu feces: wa, wam, wapsa, wawa, pilpabi, popop, porpobbum, pepabi, sepabi

Soap Šalea


Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Location: Soapatopia

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:08 pm    Post subject:    

THC wrote: What's the name of your conlang? Sorry, it's called Pabappa.

Quote: Why more than one word? The ones separated by commas are synonyms. In some cases, there are synonyms because Pabappa was spoken for a long time over a large area, and since much of its vocabulary was created by loaning from aboriginal languages, even body parts could be called something different from one place to the other. Also, some words are just variations of each other; e.g. blampilpim and pilpi are both from the same root. And in the case of the genitals, there are a lot of slang words as well. Some of them probably have slightly different uses, but I haven't thought about it deeply yet.

No word for thigh yet, other than if I wanted to make a phrase that just means "upper behind leg", but I might think of something better eventually. Is this all going to a database somewhere or are you just curious?

cromulant wrote: Kuvdamos, I'm detecting a fondness for bilabial plosives. Am I right? Yes. Pabappa started as a jokelang three years ago, but I got too attached to it to let it remain as such.

I think Kuvdamos and Soap are the same person?

Author: Kuvdamos

Body abba, blassi, ubbalap -Blood vessel tamapop --Artery tamap --Vein tamap wurpap peso -Material of which it is composed --Bone pansa --Skin perebi --Muscle soppi --Fat blampilpim, pilpi --Blood tapema -Trunk (torso) sumpobi --Chest pammum ---Heart wepse, wawa ---Lung ebo, ebobi --Abdomen or Belly pia pemarapup, pemarapupi ---Stomach pemarapupi ---Liver pabapi ---Spleen barrampi ---Intestines wampupi --Waist pemarapupi -Neck pia pawa palidapa -Extremity palupopi, pemiabi --Head wibu, pawapi ---Hair wesum ---Ear uma, sobopi


Earhole umabosadepi

---Eye pamala, wamul, oppi, pispi


Eyeball pamala, wamul, oppi, pispi


Iris pispadapi


Pupil pispaliapi


Sclera no word yet


Eyebrow pisamblesum


Eyelid osinipi


Eyelash opwesum (ack!! I used "eye hair" twice with two different words for eye!)


Eye socket opposadepi


Tear gland liblapampi

---Nose tapi, wampadampi, ewepi


Nostril taposadepi

---Mouth popopi


Jaw poposopi


Maxilla (upper jaw) assa poposopi


Mandible (lower jaw) palida poposopi


Tooth pampi (plural only), amilam, wisse


Incisor no word yet


Eyetooth or Canine Tooth no word yet


Molar (and/or premolar?) no word yet


Tongue blampi

--Limb pemia ---Arm pemia


Shoulder maba


Elbow pemiabimbra


Wrist pia webes pampsam


Humerus (upper arm) no word yet


Lower Arm no word yet


Hand pebui, ampi, pampsam, salpo, pawam


Palm purpapimpam bla pampsam pia mipalbapsa

---Leg pampipi


Hip piam, perara (both plural)


Knee pimbra


Ankle pebapi bliwipi


Thigh (upper arm) dont you mean upper leg?


Shin no word yet


Foot aspi


Sole no word yet


Ball no word yet

--Digit (toe or thumb or finger) no word yet ---Nail ebbi


Fingernail ebbi


Toenail ebbi warp aspi

---Toe saweman sampi pia


Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe) no word yet


Pinky toe or little toe no word yet


Other toes? no word yet

---Thumb abi, abepi, pampsap abepem


Thumbnail arpebbi

---Finger sempi


Index finger no word yet


Pinky finger no word yet


Middle finger no word yet


Ring finger no word yet

--My god, how could I have left out the genitalia?!?! perpebi ("genitals") ---female pupap, labap


vagina wempa, lara, rompa, arawap


womb rompa, pampam, mimal, topo, lolob, nipa

---male nope, palsip, lupap


penis pubu, noba, nampe, pampapi, nidi, pidapi


testicle lespapi (plural only)

-Side popapitabi --Back porpepi (usually interpreted as meaning "buttocks") --Front jubipi --Left blumperbap --Right porpubat --Bottom (lower) purpa --Top (upper) pimpampi -Orifices --anus parpab --urethral meatus? loposadepi ("urine hole")

More: buttocks: porpe, perara, puru, sal clitoris: pubi urine: lop, ibbi, wapom, soba, sopa, pupi, pupu feces: wa, wam, wapsa, wawa, pilpabi, popop, porpobbum, pepabi, sepabi


Thanks. What's the name of your conlang?


Kuvdamos wrote:

Body abba, blassi, ubbalap --Vein tamap wurpap peso --Fat blampilpim, pilpi ---Heart wepse, wawa ---Lung ebo, ebobi --Abdomen or Belly pia pemarapup, pemarapupi -Neck pia pawa palidapa -Extremity palupopi, pemiabi --Head wibu, pawapi ---Ear uma, sobopi ---Eye pamala, wamul, oppi, pispi


Eyeball pamala, wamul, oppi, pispi

---Nose tapi, wampadampi, ewepi


Maxilla (upper jaw) assa poposopi


Mandible (lower jaw) palida poposopi


Tooth pampi (plural only), amilam, wisse


Wrist pia webes pampsam


Hand pebui, ampi, pampsam, salpo, pawam


Palm purpapimpam bla pampsam pia mipalbapsa


Hip piam, perara (both plural)


Ankle pebapi bliwipi


Toenail ebbi warp aspi

---Toe saweman sampi pia ---Thumb abi, abepi, pampsap abepem ---female pupap, labap


vagina wempa, lara, rompa, arawap


womb rompa, pampam, mimal, topo, lolob, nipa

---male nope, palsip, lupap


penis pubu, noba, nampe, pampapi, nidi, pidapi

buttocks: porpe, perara, puru, sal urine: lop, ibbi, wapom, soba, sopa, pupi, pupu feces: wa, wam, wapsa, wawa, pilpabi, popop, porpobbum, pepabi, sepabi


Why more than one word? In some cases, viz. Kuvdamos wrote:

--Vein tamap wurpap peso --Abdomen or Belly pia pemarapup, pemarapupi -Neck pia pawa palidapa


Maxilla (upper jaw) assa poposopi


Mandible (lower jaw) palida poposopi


Wrist pia webes pampsam


Palm purpapimpam bla pampsam pia mipalbapsa


Ankle pebapi bliwipi


Toenail ebbi warp aspi

---Toe saweman sampi pia ---Thumb abi, abepi, pampsap abepem


it looks like you need a phrase to distinguish from some other body-part; but in some cases, viz. Kuvdamos wrote:

Body abba, blassi, ubbalap --Fat blampilpim, pilpi ---Heart wepse, wawa ---Lung ebo, ebobi --Abdomen or Belly pia pemarapup, pemarapupi -Extremity palupopi, pemiabi --Head wibu, pawapi ---Ear uma, sobopi ---Eye pamala, wamul, oppi, pispi


Eyeball pamala, wamul, oppi, pispi

---Nose tapi, wampadampi, ewepi


Tooth pampi (plural only), amilam, wisse


Hand pebui, ampi, pampsam, salpo, pawam


Hip piam, perara (both plural)

---Thumb abi, abepi, pampsap abepem ---female pupap, labap


vagina wempa, lara, rompa, arawap


womb rompa, pampam, mimal, topo, lolob, nipa

---male nope, palsip, lupap


penis pubu, noba, nampe, pampapi, nidi, pidapi

buttocks: porpe, perara, puru, sal urine: lop, ibbi, wapom, soba, sopa, pupi, pupu feces: wa, wam, wapsa, wawa, pilpabi, popop, porpobbum, pepabi, sepabi


it looks like you have more than one term which are interpretable by the same "English" term. In the latter cases, is that because your conlang makes a distinction "English" doesn't (actually, that I didn't?) Or do you have two different synonyms? In which case when is it appropriate to use the one, and when the other?


Kuvdamos wrote:


Sclera no word yet


Incisor no word yet


Eyetooth or Canine Tooth no word yet


Molar (and/or premolar?) no word yet


Humerus (upper arm) no word yet


Lower Arm no word yet


Shin no word yet


Sole no word yet


Ball no word yet

--Digit (toe or thumb or finger) no word yet


Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe) no word yet


Pinky toe or little toe no word yet


Other toes? no word yet


Index finger no word yet


Pinky finger no word yet


Middle finger no word yet


Ring finger no word yet


Fine. Not all languages have words for these. Yours may end up needing phrases for some of these.


Kuvdamos wrote:


Tooth pampi (plural only), amilam, wisse


Hip piam, perara (both plural)


testicle lespapi (plural only)


Fine. Thanks.


Kuvdamos wrote:

--Back porpepi (usually interpreted as meaning "buttocks") --urethral meatus? loposadepi ("urine hole")


OK. Thanks.


Kuvdamos wrote:


Eyebrow pisamblesum


Eyelash opwesum (ack!! I used "eye hair" twice with two different words for eye!)


That's fine, probably.


Kuvdamos wrote:


Thigh (upper arm) dont you mean upper leg?


Yes! I have edited it. Do you have a word for "thigh" in your conlang?



Tom H.C. in MI _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs   

(Accidental duplicate post I was not able to delete.)


Tom H.C. in MI

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Drem

Author: doctrellor Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:34 pm

I have a set of roots, with compounds to attach greater detail

like finger + nail = fingernail or mouth + lower = jaw or head + high = scalp/forehead and so on

so an amalgamation of roots or root/locatives usually does the trick (to get as specific as needed) for the Drem

I'll post my list sometime later/tonight.. _________________

cromulant Gent


Joined: 14 Jul 2006

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject:    

Kuvdamos, I'm detecting a fondness for bilabial plosives. Am I right?

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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs   

doctrellor wrote:

TomHChappell wrote:

Does your conlang ... use any of these terms, or reduced forms of them, as affixes? Or as verbs or adjectives or prepositions or conjunctions or pronouns?


I have a set of roots, with compounds to attach greater detail like finger + nail = fingernail or mouth + lower = jaw or head + high = scalp/forehead and so on so an amalgamation of roots or root/locatives usually does the trick (to get as specific as needed) for the Drem I'll post my list sometime later/tonight..


Thanks. I look forward to it.


Tom H.C. in MI _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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Zevino'shoma

Author: Goza Lesha Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:26 pm

(For Zevino'shoma) This will be different, as they are alien, and somewhat odd in their body structure. I'll come back for the rest later.

These are the ones I have words for:

Chest, Abdomen, Belly: Shigilalumaga Brain: Shogatu Spleen, Kidney, Liver (all one organ): Shetashu

Muphridian

Author: Goza Lesha Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:26 pm

All also do Muphridian, which is closely related to English:

Body Body -Blood vessel Bleed Vessel --Artery Artery --Vein Vein -Material of which it is composed --Bone Bone --Skin Skin --Muscle Muscle --Fat Fat --Blood Bleed -Trunk (torso) Torso --Chest Chest ---Heart Heart ---Lung Lung --Abdomen or Belly Abdoman, Belly ---Stomach Stomach ---Liver Liver ---Spleen Sploon ---Intestines Intestines --Waist Waist -Neck Neck -Extremity Extremity --Head Hed ---Hair Hair ---Ear Ear


Earhole Ear Canal

---Eye Eye


Eyeball Eyeball


Iris Iris


Pupil Pupil


Sclera Sclera


Eyebrow Eyebrow


Eyelid Eyelid


Eyelash Eyelash


Eye socket Eye socket


Tear gland Tear Gland

---Nose Nose


Nostril Nostril

---Mouth Mouth


Jaw Jaw


Maxilla (upper jaw) Maxilla, Upper Jaw


Mandible (lower jaw) Mandible, Lower Jaw


Tooth Tooth


Incisor Incisor


Eyetooth or Canine Tooth Canine Tooth


Molar (and/or premolar?) Molar, premolar


Tongue Tongue

--Limb Limb ---Arm Arm


Shoulder Shoulder


Elbow Elbow


Wrist Wrist


Humerus (upper arm) Humerus, Upper Arm


Lower Arm Lower Arm


Hand Hand


Palm Palm

---Leg Leg


Hip Hip


Knee Knoo


Ankle Ankle


Thigh (upper leg) Thigh, upper leg


Shin Shin


Foot Foot


Sole Sole


Ball Ball

--Digit (toe or thumb or finger) Digit ---Nail Nail


Fingernail Fingernail


Toenail Toenail

---Toe Toe


Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe) Big Toe


Pinky toe or little toe Little Toe


Other toes? Toes

---Thumb Thumb


Thumbnail Thumbnail

---Finger Finger


Index finger Index Finger


Pinky finger Pinky Finger


Middle finger Middle Finger


Ring finger Ring Finger

--My god, how could I have left out the genitalia?!?! Genitals ---female Female


vagina Vagina


womb Womb

---male Male


penis Penis


testicle Testicle

-Side Side --Back Back --Front Front --Left Left --Right Right --Bottom (lower) Bottom --Top (upper) Top -Orifices Orifices --anus Anus --urethral meatus? Urethral Meatus

My favorite one in the list is sploon. (spleen would be the plural)


nebula wind phone Tšur


Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Location: Austin, Texas, USA

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject:    

Sploon! Fabulous! (But shouldn't it be weemb?) _________________ "When I was about 16 it occurred to me that conlanging might be a sin, but I changed my mind when I realized Adam and Eve were doing it before the Fall." —Mercator

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Shm Jay Šalea


Joined: 14 Nov 2002 Location: 5.4.5.2

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject:    

What about the oonus?

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(don't know name of scwhatever's conlang)

Author: schwhatever Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:15 pm

Wow, I've got almost nothing....

blood - kedes (archaic form: qidis) eye - simah eyes - soemaef lip - zilh muscle - hacaz (also means meat) fat - jeikosc throat - vezop genitalia - vuseis _________________ Jar Jar Binks wrote: Now, by making just a few small changes, we prettify the orthography for happier socialist tomorrow! Xonen wrote: ^ WHS. Except for the log thing and the Andean panpipers.


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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:19 am    Post subject:    

Goza Lesha wrote:

(For Zevino'shoma) This will be different, as they are alien, and somewhat odd in their body structure. I'll come back for the rest later. These are the ones I have words for: Chest, Abdomen, Belly: Shigilalumaga Brain: Shogatu Spleen, Kidney, Liver (all one organ): Shetashu


Great! Thanks.


Goza Lesha wrote:

All also do Muphridian, which is closely related to English: Body Body -Blood vessel Bleed Vessel --Artery Artery --Vein Vein -Material of which it is composed --Bone Bone --Skin Skin --Muscle Muscle --Fat Fat --Blood Bleed -Trunk (torso) Torso --Chest Chest ---Heart Heart ---Lung Lung --Abdomen or Belly Abdoman, Belly ---Stomach Stomach ---Liver Liver ---Spleen Sploon ---Intestines Intestines --Waist Waist -Neck Neck -Extremity Extremity --Head Hed ---Hair Hair ---Ear Ear


Earhole Ear Canal

---Eye Eye


Eyeball Eyeball


Iris Iris


Pupil Pupil


Sclera Sclera


Eyebrow Eyebrow


Eyelid Eyelid


Eyelash Eyelash


Eye socket Eye socket


Tear gland Tear Gland

---Nose Nose


Nostril Nostril

---Mouth Mouth


Jaw Jaw


Maxilla (upper jaw) Maxilla, Upper Jaw


Mandible (lower jaw) Mandible, Lower Jaw


Tooth Tooth


Incisor Incisor


Eyetooth or Canine Tooth Canine Tooth


Molar (and/or premolar?) Molar, premolar


Tongue Tongue

--Limb Limb ---Arm Arm


Shoulder Shoulder


Elbow Elbow


Wrist Wrist


Humerus (upper arm) Humerus, Upper Arm


Lower Arm Lower Arm


Hand Hand


Palm Palm

---Leg Leg


Hip Hip


Knee Knoo


Ankle Ankle


Thigh (upper leg) Thigh, upper leg


Shin Shin


Foot Foot


Sole Sole


Ball Ball

--Digit (toe or thumb or finger) Digit ---Nail Nail


Fingernail Fingernail


Toenail Toenail

---Toe Toe


Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe) Big Toe


Pinky toe or little toe Little Toe


Other toes? Toes

---Thumb Thumb


Thumbnail Thumbnail

---Finger Finger


Index finger Index Finger


Pinky finger Pinky Finger


Middle finger Middle Finger


Ring finger Ring Finger

--My god, how could I have left out the genitalia?!?! Genitals ---female Female


vagina Vagina


womb Womb

---male Male


penis Penis


testicle Testicle

-Side Side --Back Back --Front Front --Left Left --Right Right --Bottom (lower) Bottom --Top (upper) Top -Orifices Orifices --anus Anus --urethral meatus? Urethral Meatus

My favorite one in the list is sploon. (spleen would be the plural)


Weird! Thanks. I look forward to seeing what the diachronic relationship to English is.


schwhatever wrote:

Wow, I've got almost nothing....


I've got you beat; I've got exactly nothing!

schwhatever wrote:

blood - kedes (archaic form: qidis) eye - simah eyes - soemaef lip - zilh muscle - hacaz (also means meat) fat - jeikosc throat - vezop genitalia - vuseis


What's the name of your conlang?

schwhatever wrote:

eye - simah eyes - soemaef


Interesting! Is this suppletive, or irregular, or what? Is "soemaef" dual or plural? How are the forms "simah" and "soemaef" derived one from the other?

schwhatever wrote:

lip - zilh


I left that out. Should I have included it? I'm glad you got my suggestion that people should include anything they thought of, even if I'd left it out.

schwhatever wrote:

throat - vezop


Is that the same as "neck", or different?

schwhatever wrote:

muscle - hacaz (also means meat)


Good; these probably should be the same word in many languages.


Thanks, Goza Lesha. Thanks, schwhatever. Thanks, everyone.


Tom H.C. in MI


Mèlw

Author: Radagast Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:30 am

Many languages have bodypartaffixes that functions as adverbs of manner. He "headbutted" him for example. In mesoamerican languages it is extremely common. Whether they are adverbs or not is a case of definition but they modify verbs that is for sure.

Seat of life: blood Seat of emotion: stomach Seat of conciousness: eyes

(nawatl has life=heart/blood, conciousness=liver, emotion=heart/) _________________ Humani nihil a me alienum sit

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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs   

Radagast wrote:

Many languages have bodypartaffixes that functions as adverbs of manner. He "headbutted" him for example. In mesoamerican languages it is extremely common. Whether they are adverbs or not is a case of definition but they modify verbs that is for sure.


That's the kind of thing I wanted to know about. What's the answer for Mèlw?


Radagast wrote:

Mèlw: Seat of life: blood Seat of emotion: stomach Seat of conciousness: eyes


Thanks.


Radagast wrote:

(nawatl has life=heart/blood, conciousness=liver, emotion=heart/)


Interesting! Thanks.


Tom H.C. in MI _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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Radagast Šalea


Joined: 21 May 2005 Location: Mexico

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:53 am    Post subject:    

Mèlw doesn't allow bodypart affixation it only incorporates patients. _________________ Humani nihil a me alienum sit

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Vernaclerian

Author: Delalyra Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:23 pm

Vernaclerians believe that the stomach is the"mental heart"...it makes so much more sense than the heart when you think about it, anyways. In their religion, most of their matter came from their Deitiy's life-force (basically), so everything is their "seat of life"...and they know that the brain is where they think, sleep, etc...the "seat of consciousness." _________________ [dEl.@."lir\.@] <-- correct pronunciation of my username.

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Goza Lesha Endi


Joined: 08 Oct 2006

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject:    

Terran humans for this: (Muphridian language)

What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of life? Heart

What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of emotion? Heart

What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of consciousness? Brain

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Palhàwan

Author: Raluv Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:56 pm

I have a few in Palhàwan:

body - ë̀yro head - ë̀yròi hair (mass)- lëyrotelùmar mouth - lhàma nose - tìa eye - àsþol ear - fazs tooth - b̀àma tongue )- dàðel neck - wonh arm - telumàrel hand - telùmar knee - wòxin leg - wòxel foot - woxh heart - selùmel skin -nìam blood -mìrim

Seat of Life: Head

Seat of Emotion: Heart

Seat of Consciousness: Head

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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:28 am    Post subject:    

Radagast wrote:

Mèlw doesn't allow bodypart affixation it only incorporates patients.


Thanks.


Kuvdamos wrote:

THC wrote:

What's the name of your conlang?


Sorry, it's called Pabappa.


Thanks.

Kuvdamos wrote:

Quote:

Why more than one word?


The ones separated by commas are synonyms. In some cases, there are synonyms because Pabappa was spoken for a long time over a large area, and since much of its vocabulary was created by loaning from aboriginal languages, even body parts could be called something different from one place to the other. Also, some words are just variations of each other; e.g. blampilpim and pilpi are both from the same root. And in the case of the genitals, there are a lot of slang words as well. Some of them probably have slightly different uses, but I haven't thought about it deeply yet.


Kind of what I thought. Thanks.

Kuvdamos wrote:

No word for thigh yet, other than if I wanted to make a phrase that just means "upper behind leg", but I might think of something better eventually.


Let us know? Thanks.

Kuvdamos wrote:

Is this all going to a database somewhere


I wish!

Kuvdamos wrote:

or are you just curious?


'Fraid so. My own computer has no internet connection; "my" internet connection is not on my own computer. It takes more technical skill than I have been able to acquire as yet to put all this in a database someplace. But, if Janko can do it, I should be able to as well, shouldn't I? I just don't know how.


Delalyra wrote:

Vernaclerians believe that the stomach is the"mental heart"...it makes so much more sense than the heart when you think about it, anyways. In their religion, most of their matter came from their Deitiy's life-force (basically), so everything is their "seat of life"...and they know that the brain is where they think, sleep, etc...the "seat of consciousness."


Interesting; thanks. (I have been told -- I don't know whether it's true -- that in "modern western" societies, men tend to see certain parts of their bodies as the "center of their sexual attractiveness", whereas women OTOH see each and every part of their bodies as the "center(?) of their sexual attractiveness". Your Vernaclerians' thinking that each part of their body is the "seat of life" sounds a little like the latter. But do they feel that way about hair and nails? And excretions such as sweat and saliva and earwax?)


Goza Lesha wrote:

Terran humans for this: (Muphridian language) What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of life? Heart What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of emotion? Heart What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of consciousness? Brain


Thanks. I'm getting curious about these Muphridians. Where do you have their conhistory stored?


Raluv wrote:

I have a few in Palhàwan: body - ë̀yro head - ë̀yròi hair (mass)- lëyrotelùmar mouth - lhàma nose - tìa eye - àsþol ear - fazs tooth - b̀àma tongue )- dàðel neck - wonh arm - telumàrel hand - telùmar knee - wòxin leg - wòxel foot - woxh heart - selùmel skin -nìam blood -mìrim

Seat of Life: Head Seat of Emotion: Heart Seat of Consciousness: Head


Thanks. "telumàrel" and "telùmar" look related; are they? "wòxin", "wòxel", and "woxh" look related; are they? Are there other relationships I've missed? Thanks again.


Thanks again, everyone!


Tom H.C. in MI _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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Socialese

Author: Eddy Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:44 am

Well, so far, Socialese seems to be taking an impressionistic turn with a strong emphasis on personal meaning. So the concept of "eye" might be expressed as "It lets me see" and "genital" as "it gives me sexual pleasure". So far, though, I haven't worked out all the details.


(Don't know name of Daryush's conlang, and can't copy post contents.)

Author: daryush Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:08 pm


Here u go

Conworld site


(don't know name of Oric's conlang)

Author: Oric Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:48 pm


TomHChappell wrote: ...I...have ...penis


By the way, what city are you from? SE is nowhere close to where I visit- I go to West Branch (the smiley-face city) annually. _________________ ils wrote: Listen to Oric. He knows what he's talking about.


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Gevey

Author: Rik Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:55 pm

Gevey does better than I expected on body parts - lots of words/concepts still missing, though. Most of these words have been generated to meet various translation exercise requirements:

Simple animate status body parts: aelne (aeln) ear bazhjarhe (bazhjarh) thumb bazhve (bazhev) finger becye (beceey) skin khuane (khuant) womb me'he (met) throat shaawe (shaawg) hand shkipe (shkip) heart shlune (shlum) nose, snout slofre (slofehr) head wanhe (wang) eye woole (wool) face, visage yeetse (yeetes) tongue zwi'he (zwit) blood

Inanimate status body parts: cesuu (cesk) body, torso drestuu (drest) forehead ezekuu (ezek) foot, paw friskuu (frisk) guts, intestines ghimuu (ghim) muscle grupuu (grup) hair, fur, wool joejuu (joej) leg koguu (kog) bone osucuu (osuc) stomach, belly poyuu (poy) chin raekhwuu (raekhouwg) shoulder rhuuluu (rhuul) tooth shewuu (shewg) back, saddle shnaathuu (shnaath) placenta storuu (stor) chest ubulhuu (ubul) neck vroiduu (vroid) arm zdanuu (zdant) skull

Body products (all inanimate status): thakluu becyizhuu (yuu becyizhuu thakel) spot, zit ma'haelhuu (ma'hael) urine, piss ma'haelhuu zdanizhuu (yuu zdanizhuu ma'hael) phlegm mabecyuu (mabeceey) sweat zwibecyuu (zwibeceey) scab

Neo-Khitanese (Kilda)

The language has a pretty well worked out vocabulary in this area. What I give below is strictly for human bodies; there's often special terminology for talking about the analogous parts of different animals. Body-part terminology shows a lot of irregular plurals (duals, one could argue), and even some odd singular forms where the default is plural/dual. There's a fairly distinct register of "baby speech" which I've included here. The orthography is the sort used in native typography; no distinction of front/back "i" vowels or of vowel length; note that {c, j} = alveopalatal affricates [tS], [dZ].

Body

  1. Blood vessel: hunggikta, no lexical differentiation between veins and arteries (obsolete: sodun, now meaning "pulse")
  2. Material of which it is composed
    1. Bone: giramda (babytalk: foni)
    2. Gristle or cartilage: tadaksa
    3. Skin: kilfa
    4. Muscle: sümü
    5. Fat: nimükse (usu. restricted to abdominal fat deposits)
    6. Blood: sekse (babytalk: misi-misi)
  3. Trunk (torso): tünggen (see chest below)
    1. Chest: tünggen, refers both to upper torso and the torso as a whole (obsolete: kengkütir, "chest, ribcage")
      1. Heart: mêwan (babytalk: ling-ling)
      2. Lung: pagun, pl. pagad
    2. Abdomen or Belly: nangka "abdomen, belly; stomach"; refers to both the area and the innards.
      1. Stomach: nangka "belly; stomach" or fükin "stomach, intestines" (babytalk: pisi-bisi)
      2. Liver: pakin
      3. Spleen: dilkin
      4. Intestines: fükin "stomach, intestines"
    3. Waist: darama "hips" and enggeñe "waist, lower flanks"
  4. Neck: minggön "neck", silde "nape of neck", ceken "front of throat, larynx; jowls"
  5. Extremity
    1. Head: dil, köbül (syn.) (babytalk: pa-pa)
      1. Hair: ñürikte, kümid (syn., on head and in general; babytalk equivalents numa, cik-cik); tikta "body hair"; dêki "facial hair
      2. Ear: šên
        1. Earhole: šên kobin (lit. "cavity of the ear")
        2. Earlobe: TBD
      3. Eye: isa (babytalk: nübi); the eye as it appears in the face
        1. Eyeball: ñündün (the organ in the strict sense)
          1. Iris: TBD
          2. Pupil: TBD
          3. Sclera: TBD
        2. Eyebrow: kamig (sg. kam)
        3. Eyelid: kömdekte
          1. Eyelash: kirimki
        4. Eye socket: isa kobin (lit. "cavity of the eye")
        5. Tear gland: TBD
      4. Nose: onggara (formal), ñarak (vernacular, lit. "snot-container"), yakkan (slang), kaiko (babytalk)
        1. Nostril: kangša, pl. kanggid
      5. Mouth: amga, šekše (syn.)
        1. Jaw: kebi
          1. Maxilla (upper jaw): TBD
          2. Mandible (lower jaw): kebi
        2. Tooth: kikta (babytalk: kip-kep, pl. kiped [yes, Kilda infant-speak has irregular plurals])
          1. Incisor: TBD for human bodyparts
          2. Eyetooth or Canine Tooth: TBD for human bodyparts
          3. Molar (and/or premolar?): TBD for human bodyparts
        3. Tongue: necil (babytalk: hilengki, lit. "licker")
    2. Limb: no unitary term
      1. Arm: no unitary term
        1. Shoulder: tannun, pl. tanud (idiomatic/obsolete: mire); kende "shoulderblade, shoulder bone"
        2. Elbow: hiñcen "elbow (joint)", sirmüsik "elbow (bone)"
        3. Wrist: bilen "wrist (joint)", kombuki "wrist (bones)"
        4. Humerus (upper arm): bokto
        5. Lower Arm: sötö, pl. sitüt
        6. Hand: gala
          1. Palm: mañjan (and note maniran "back of the hand")
      2. Leg: begdi "foot, leg"
        1. Hip: ogo "hips, pelvis" (literary: uldug)
          1. buttock (if different): pikangga (polite), puk-puk (vernacular and babytalk), künggüki (vulgar)
        2. Knee: söjö, pl. süjid (babytalk: kokobo); also cöjökü, pl. celköt "hollow behind the knee", pengjen "knee joint", töbgi "kneecap (bone)"
        3. Ankle: cimenek, cimnek
        4. Thigh (upper leg): talpi (literary: uldug)
        5. Shank (lower leg, between knee and ankle): silbi
          1. Shin: silbi
          2. Calf: cakci "calf muscle, back of lower leg"
        6. Foot: begdi "foot, leg"; also ölmi "top/upper part of foot"
          1. Sole: fata
          2. Heel: ningti
          3. Ball: N/A
    3. Digit (toe or thumb or finger): no unitary term
      1. Nail: osikta (with long vowel in second syllable; minimal pair with initial-long osikta "star")
        1. Fingernail: no separate term
        2. Toenail: no separate term
      2. Toe: cimki
        1. Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe): TBD
        2. Pinky toe or little toe: TBD
        3. Other individual toes?: TBD
      3. Thumb: perüken, tamka (syn.)
        1. Thumbnail: TBD or N/A
      4. Finger: huñakan (babytalk: kekkö, pl. kikêd)
        1. Index finger: talgalan; also tikalan "middle or ring finger, either or both of the two inside fingers"
        2. Pinky finger: cimcen
        3. Middle finger: TBD, see above
        4. Ring finger: tunglik
    4. Genitalia
      1. female
        1. vagina: koñju (polite), köppön, kapilak (slang), kwappa (vulgar), paku (intimate), bi-bi (babytalk)
        2. womb: doptun
      2. male
        1. penis: cicük (formal/polite), lölö (vernacular/slang), ci-ci (babytalk)
        2. testicle: nama (babytalk: noki)
  6. Side
    1. Back: sogdonso "back", ñiri "backbone, spine"
    2. Front: tünggen "chest, breast"
    3. Left: ñiligdi "left (adj.)", ñiliski "leftwards, to the left"; also šucaka "left-handed (of person, etc.)"
    4. Right: anggu, maran "right (adj.)", angguski, marangku "rightward, to the right" (syn.)
    5. Bottom (lower): ütilme "lower" (general; not specific to body)
    6. Top (upper): ügi:gde "upper" (general; not specific to body)
  7. Orifices
    1. anus: ilmi
    2. urethral meatus?: TBD

Does your conlang, or do your conlangs, use any of these terms, or reduced forms of them, as affixes? Or as verbs or adjectives or prepositions or conjunctions or pronouns? With the exception of directional terms, no; they're all nouns/nominals, and are mostly substantives.


What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of life? Probably the stomach.

What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of emotion? The liver and the heart.

What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of consciousness? The brain (tarki) in modern times, but in different idiomatic contexts, it can be various other body parts, including the feet.

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Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Location: Deliriously Happy [2.7.9.1]

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject:    

daryush wrote: amazing pictures

Oh my god, that is truly amazing. Is that your conlang? ...it reminds me of turkish. _________________ [dEl.@."lir\.@] <-- correct pronunciation of my username.

<Rhob> I have a fetish for women.

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Whimemsz Šalea


Joined: 20 Jun 2003 Location: Gimaamaa onibaaganing

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject:    

daryush wrote: Here u go


That looks...remarkably similar to Turkish. Is it derived from Turkish, or a conTurkic lang or something? _________________


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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject:    

Delalyra wrote:

daryush wrote:

amazing pictures


Oh my god, that is truly amazing. Is that your conlang? ...it reminds me of turkish.


Whimemsz wrote:

daryush wrote:

Here u go


That looks...remarkably similar to Turkish. Is it derived from Turkish, or a conTurkic lang or something?


What they said. Amazing, Turkish-oid, all of it.


Tom H.C. in MI _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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daryush Mey


Joined: 23 Jul 2006

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject:    

It was originally an auxlang for Turkish before I decided to build a conworld around it ... so yeah, its absurdly heavily influenced (there is quite a bit of con- in it, though )

Thanks for the comments btw _________________ Gremlins wrote: Dice don't boing.

Conworld site

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Goza Lesha Endi


Joined: 08 Oct 2006

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:11 pm    Post subject:    

TomHChappell wrote: Goza Lesha wrote:

Terran humans for this: (Muphridian language) What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of life? Heart What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of emotion? Heart What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of consciousness? Brain


Thanks. I'm getting curious about these Muphridians. Where do you have their conhistory stored?


I don't have much of the history of the Muphridian language (or the Muphridians), but there is a general overview there of the history, and the language here: http://scjuwiki.azivelar.net/wiki/Muphridian_Language. (under construction)

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schwhatever Šalea


Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Location: NorCal

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject:    

TomHChappell wrote: What's the name of your conlang?

Faranit. Although there is a little ambiguity.

TomHChappell wrote: schwhatever wrote:

eye - simah eyes - soemaef


Interesting! Is this suppletive, or irregular, or what? Is "soemaef" dual or plural? How are the forms "simah" and "soemaef" derived one from the other?


It's left over from an older plural system similar to German's lengthening system. I haven't worked out the specifics yet, unfortunately. It irregular, but with some method to its madness, as you can see the remnents of the earlier plural system, but also a worn down version of the later -(I/E)b system.

Quote: schwhatever wrote:

lip - zilh


I left that out. Should I have included it? I'm glad you got my suggestion that people should include anything they thought of, even if I'd left it out.


Maybe? It was buried in my lexicon and I thought I might as well...

Quote: schwhatever wrote:

throat - vezop


Is that the same as "neck", or different?

No, it's the same.

Quote: schwhatever wrote:

muscle - hacaz (also means meat)


Good; these probably should be the same word in many languages.

Thanks. _________________ Jar Jar Binks wrote: Now, by making just a few small changes, we prettify the orthography for happier socialist tomorrow! Xonen wrote: ^ WHS. Except for the log thing and the Andean panpipers.


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Sano Šalea


Joined: 09 Sep 2004

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:37 pm    Post subject:    

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MustangDan15 Për


Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: Boise, ID

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject:    

Might be easier on everyone's eyes if you placed the Qatama words adjacent to their English equivalents. _________________ "I'd rather talk about something pleasant - like a nuclear war." - William Allen of Boeing in response to visitor about if first 747 crashed

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Sano Šalea


Joined: 09 Sep 2004

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:42 pm    Post subject:    

MustangDan15 wrote: Might be easier on everyone's eyes if you placed the Qatama words adjacent to their English equivalents.


Yeah, it might. _________________


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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject:    

Thanks, Sano.

Sano wrote:

MustangDan15 wrote: Might be easier on everyone's eyes if you placed the Qatama words adjacent to their English equivalents.


Yeah, it might.


Qatama: English:

anaq head anuq ear(s) ongo eye(s) okota heart toru back taruya hip/waist tara belly/stomach utar chest/breast nogra feet/toes anuja leg udan hand/arm qongo joint gan bone gua mouth/face ogua facial hair uha skin udanju fingers/knuckles dong nose g'tla shoulder qono muscle anaqra neck guata teeth guaja tongue unuq hair

-Khang


1) Did I do that right?

2) Why did you quote yourself? 2a) Apparently you had already answered this question in some other post. Where? and what post?

3) The word "nogra feet/toes" reminds me a bit of Russian; but the rest of the list doesn't remind me of any language in particular. Is Qatama intended to be related to any natlang?

Again, Thanks.


Tom H.C. in MI _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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Sano Šalea


Joined: 09 Sep 2004

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject:    

Quote: Did I do that right?


Better than I did.

Quote: Why did you quote yourself?, Where?


ease, CBB

Quote: Is Qatama intended to be related to any natlang?


Not at all. _________________


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sintau.tayua Mey


Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Location: Taranaki (taradise!)

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:04 am    Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs   

TomHChappell wrote: What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of life? Popular answers are the liver (hence the name "liver") and the heart.

What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of emotion? Popular answers are the stomach, the guts, and the heart.

What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of consciousness? Popular answers are the eyes and the heart; but modern Western culture says "the brain".


The main Psinu belief is that there are three main parts of a person:

1) the physical body, exemplified by the hands (eg. "bring your hands over here" - come here)

2)The conection with God (this is sometimes used to mean your ability to love someone, because it is believe that this connection with God escorts your soul to heaven, so if it's gone, the person has lost their soul), exemplified in the brain (actually, they think it's just a goey good-for-nothing, yet God must have put it there for a purpose, so maybe it's our connection with God?) This is not like the christian 'Holy Spirit, because it doesn't help you in life, it just guides you to heaven.

3) The personality, the 'real you'. This is said to be in the lungs.

_________________


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Old Man Neek Šalea


Joined: 30 Sep 2002 Location: im itësin

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs   

TomHChappell wrote: What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of life? Popular answers are the liver (hence the name "liver") and the heart.

What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of emotion? Popular answers are the stomach, the guts, and the heart.

What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of consciousness? Popular answers are the eyes and the heart; but modern Western culture says "the brain".


My current conculture project is retooling a proto-language, so at the moment I lack a total vocabulary and am not too sure on how to expand the entire ideal. However, I would like to answer these questions here.

The Paratinó should not be considered an individual, existing culture. There are are little known texts about these people, and what is drawn here is drawn as a common denominator from the cultures that arose from the Paratinó.

The assumed idea is that any given emotion has three components:

  • A fluid (blood, semen, saliva, bile)
  • An organ (any of them, really; though the genitals, liver, heart, brain, eyes, and tongue are chief)
  • Direction.

This means that the path to any emotion requires one fluid to be filtered through an organ in a very specific direction. To make it simple, there is no simple way to say "life is seated in the liver," life can be many things.

The fluid of blood is oftentimes called *adda sēυsŭ, or humor vitae. This sort of phrase stands side-by-side for the root for blood, *φĭlem. When one is lively and active, the blood flows through the heart upward. When one is wrought with anger, it is upward through the brain.

When one is virile, it is semen (*adda tmilsŭ, the water of birth, or simply sθiwar) that flows downward into the genitals; however whenever when one is lustfull and simply desires self-pleasure, it is saliva that passes through the genitals (saliva being *adda gnāstıtsŭ, the water of desire; also aspa, spit) When on is empassioned with love, it is semen that flows to the left through the heart.

Consciousness and guilt are bile (*adda graχwisŭ, the water of spite, or graχwisos that flow downward through the liver. When one is reighteous, bile passes upward through the liver.

I hope this helps, and soon I should be able to expand the vocabulary to name all the organs.

[Edit]Dumb grammar. _________________

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Raluv Endi


Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Location: Kansas

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:39 pm    Post subject:    

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"telumàrel" and "telùmar" look related; are they? "wòxin", "wòxel", and "woxh" look related; are they? Are there other relationships I've missed?


The suffix "-el" means something like "the source of." So "telùmar" is hand, and "telumàrel" is literally "hand source", or the arm. With "woxh," which is foot, the h is silent and then dropped when the suffix is added making "wòxel," or leg. "Wòxin" is foot with the suffix for what equates to "middle." There are a few more like "ë̀ro" and "ë̀roi" for body and head. "ërotelùmar," meaning hair, is also related believe it or not, to hand, literally meaning "little hands."

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Radioguy Mey


Joined: 19 Aug 2006 Location: Golden Temple, Bham

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject:    

I like how the OP uses lowercase in these ---female


vagina


womb

---male


penis


testicle

but capitalizes all the others. Someone is ashamed of their sexuality! _________________


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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject:    

Radioguy wrote:

I like how the OP uses lowercase in these ---female


vagina


womb

---male


penis


testicle

but capitalizes all the others. Someone is ashamed of their sexuality!


I'm not ashamed of it, no; it just slipped my mind completely! I had to go back and put them in. I had been intending to include them when I started. The reason for the different capitalization patterns is just that I did them at different times.


Tom H.C. in MI _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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Radioguy Mey


Joined: 19 Aug 2006 Location: Golden Temple, Bham

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject:    

TomHChappell wrote: Radioguy wrote:

I like how the OP uses lowercase in these ---female


vagina


womb

---male


penis


testicle

but capitalizes all the others. Someone is ashamed of their sexuality!


I'm not ashamed of it, no; it just slipped my mind completely! I had to go back and put them in. I had been intending to include them when I started. The reason for the different capitalization patterns is just that I did them at different times.


Tom H.C. in MI

It's awwwwwwwwwwwwwright I should have my post here by the end of the week. _________________


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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject:    

Radioguy wrote:

I should have my post here by the end of the week.


I'm still looking forward to it. Thanks. _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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bulbaquil Endi


Joined: 17 Nov 2006

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject:    

Beftokan's still a new conlang (only about 150 words in the lexicon to date), but it does have most of the points of consonantal articulation noted (linguistics is a living science in Beftok), so I'll list them here:

lip - èman [e_M.ma_Ln] (paucal: kaèman) tooth - ghîš [GI_Hs`] tongue - šuun [s`u:n] alveolar ridge - gìkew [gi_M.ke_L.M_L] palate - bugháth [bu_L.Ga_Ht_h] velum - ughom [u_L.GO_Lm] uvula - bháplekh [Ba_H.plE_Lx] glottis - durtan [du_L4.ta_Ln]

All body parts, including these, are considered to be part of the "human" noun class, and will decline according to it once I post the grammar.

-- Bulbaquil, 13 bhal. 875 _________________ 有声両唇摩擦音は僕の友達だ。

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Boskobènet Gent


Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Location: Somewhere north of Dixieland

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:41 pm    Post subject:    

I just thought of several terms one might include here. Not all of them will apply to all non-human species, but I've bolded the ones I think are essential, or at least very likely to be used among humans.

lip(s) gums palate uvula throat, esophagus ("I've got something in my neck" doesn't mean ... quite the same thing) throat, thrachea, windpipe breast, tit, teat nipple belly button tendon forehead temple bladder calf butt, buttocks, ass/arse pelvis spine, backbone skull rib(s) / ribcage

How could you forget "breast" and "ass/arse"? _________________ Òmiç lumei ge lòmtau vi ge bleiskou, ge tiltau vi ge vighou, ge kivo vi ge prèhou.

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Turtlehead Šalea


Joined: 07 May 2005 Location: Aotearoa

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs   

Body Kanana -Blood vessel aka --Artery akala --Vein akawana -Material of which it is composed --Bone ohakao --Gristle or cartilage (sp? cartilege?) lahala --Skin lamaha --Muscle kako --Fat lapala --Blood koko -Trunk (torso) koho --Chest hahaka ---Heart 'alona ---Lung lana --Abdomen or Belly po'o ---Stomach 'ahakalo ---Liver lawala ---Spleen hapalana ---Intestines po'oloko --Waist hopa -Neck na'a -Extremity --Head opo'o ---Hair ma'awa ---Ear kalana


Earhole


Earlobe?

---Eye 'alo


Eyeball


Iris


Pupil


Sclera


Eyebrow


Eyelid


Eyelash


Eye socket


Tear gland

---Nose aho


Nostril

---Mouth waha


Jaw


Maxilla (upper jaw)


Mandible (lower jaw)


Tooth


Incisor


Eyetooth or Canine Tooth


Molar (and/or premolar?)


Tongue

--Limb ---Arm lana


Shoulder


Elbow


Wrist


Humerus (upper arm)


Lower Arm


Hand


Palm

---Leg wawa


Hip


Knee


Ankle


Thigh (upper leg)


Shin


Foot


Sole


Heel


Ball

--Digit (toe or thumb or finger) ---Nail


Fingernail


Toenail

---Toe


Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe)


Pinky toe or little toe


Other individual toes?

---Thumb


Thumbnail

---Finger


Index finger


Pinky finger


Middle finger


Ring finger

--genitalia ---female


vagina kala


womb halapapa

---male


penis ola


testicle paopao

-Side kaha --Back mola --Front moa --Left maoa --Right makao --Bottom (lower) lalo --Top (upper) lona --anus anoho _________________ Cliciwch Yma

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Arunaza Tšur


Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Location: Nouvelle Angleterre

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:26 am    Post subject:    

Sdannískr

Lihhámr (body) -Flǽskr (flesh) --Bǽnr (bone) --Flǽskr (flesh) --Kríǥr (strength--muscle) --Tálgr (fat) --Bloðís (blood) -Búlr (trunk, usually of a tree, but also a term for torso) --Bármr (chest) ---Hǽrto (heart) ---Lúnǥwr (lung) ---Brýstr (breast) --Hrǽfr (abdomen) --Gérþ (waist) -Hálsr (neck) -Strǽkætiwr (limbs, lit. "extendeds") --Hǿvuð (head) ---Hǽrr (hair) ---Ǿro (ear) ---Ǿǥa (eye)


Bréhwo (eyelash)

---Snútr (nose) ---Múnþr (mouth)


Kǿko (jaw)


Tánþr (tooth)


Túngo (tongue)

--Lím (limb) ---Ármr (harm)


Sklúðro (shoulder)


Wrístr (wrist)


Múndr (hand)


Lófr (palm)

---Hýpr (hip) ---Kníw (knee) ---Ánkulwr (ankle) ---Þýhr (thigh) ---Skíno (shin) ---Fót (foot)


Lǽstr (sole)


Hahílr (heel)

--Fíngrr (toe or thumb or finger) ---Tǽhwo (toe) ---Ðúmo (thumb) --Grúnd (groin) --Fúlwatos (genitals/groin area, lit. "hiddens") ---Blédr (bladder) ---Ársr (butt)


Arskúlr (anus)

---Kwénir (woman)


Slít (vagina)


Wámb (womb)

---Mánnr (man)


Sǽkkr (scrotum)


Fýrnr (penis)


Bállukr (testicle)

-Síðo (side) --Hrýng (back) --Fǿro (front) --Hlǿmr (left) --Ríhtr (right) --Bóð (bottom) _________________ TomHChappell wrote: Gazariah wrote: You mean the gnomic aorist. Contrast with the "aortic gnomist", a physician who specializes in the cardiovascular ailments of earth-elementals.


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Waldkater Tšur


Joined: 15 Oct 2002 Location: Leipzig

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs   

English - Archeía - Séillethear Chéighea - Trial: Sorosya Cheía


Body - elwer - ellor -Blood vessel - uía - clœya --Artery - súloŋ --Vein - coluía ("bluish blood vessel")

-Material of which it is composed --Bone - σá (σaxx-)/ σaxxode - shacchod --Gristle or cartilage (sp? cartilege?) - δoσσa - dóssha --Skin - sár (sarc-)/ sarca - chámha ["xA:w@] --Muscle - deuma - tóimma --Fat - gyom (gyób-) - ceóimb [cOmj] --Blood - sur (surg-) - tía [ci:@] -Trunk (torso) --Chest - ámos ---Heart - céo - chéomh [CE:w] ---Lung - sválode - sbállod --Abdomen or Belly - lomme - lóimm ---Stomach - byallo - beáll ---Liver - bóyar - póughar ---Spleen - quellego ---Pancreas - felgeustar ---Intestines - zoibe, unyode - dsóibe [dzObj@] --Waist -Neck - dyalle - áirdeall [Ar\J\6l] -Extremity --Head - oan (oand-) - lúivan ["lu:vj@n], mhand [wAn] ---Hair - fille - híll ---Ear - lωm (lωv-) - lúabh ["lu:@v]


Earhole


Earlobe? - tulma - tsulma

---Eye - sáde - sáitt [sac]


Eyeball - sassum (eye ball)


Iris - tiŋyen - tsínge [tSINj@]


Pupil - marya - máira ["mA:r\@]


Sclera


Eyebrow - círes (círeθ-) - chíreth


Eyelid - fánes (fáneθ-) - fáinneth


Eyelash - satwaco - sátmhag


Eye socket - sattuce


Tear gland - sádelos (sadeloσσ-)

---Nose - tús (túy-) - áippeg


Nostril - túyoce - tsúghog

---Mouth - beuta - tsúiga


Jaw - vaugo - vóugh


Maxilla (upper jaw) - arvaugo


Mandible (lower jaw) - survaugo


Tooth - náŋ (nág-) - nág


Incisor - ctainaŋ (cteinag-)


Eyetooth or Canine Tooth - sηnaŋ (sηnag-)


Molar (and/or premolar?) - aunaŋ (aunag-)


Tongue - maiga - máigga

--Limb ---Arm - lámo - láom


Shoulder - marθa - mártha [mArh@]


Elbow - láδer - láidher ["lA:j\@r\]


Wrist - gyalláδer - gealláidher [J\@"lA:j\@r]


Humerus (upper arm)


Lower Arm


Hand - gyán - geán [J\An]


Palm - yéna

---Leg - baŋ (bang-) - páinge, háidda [hAJ\@]


Hip - rωbe - rúaibh


Knee - nébos - néobhas


Ankle


Thigh (upper leg)


Shin


Foot - δos (δoi-) - dóigh [dOj]


Sole - sumba


Heel


Ball

--Digit (toe or thumb or finger) ---Nail - caŋ (cág-) - chág-


Fingernail - gyácaŋ (gyácag-)


Toenail - δoicaŋ (δoicag-)

---Toe - derdon ---Thumb - duntice ---Finger - dún - tún --My god, how could I have left out the genitalia?!?! ---female - quenwe


vagina - θeíma (vulg.: morma)


womb - urwa - urbha

---male - donya


penis - litto - líott [Lit]


testicle - byólos (byoloσσ-) - beóllosh

-Orifices --anus - roξo

Does your conlang, or do your conlangs, use any of these terms, or reduced forms of them, as affixes?

Yes, e.g. -los < loσσo (sack) in byólos 'testicle' and sádelas 'tear gland'


The other body liquids you haven't got mentioned:

urine - fulbis pus - peugema _________________ Sé da o• dáire an gudd’ a• ráilla. Hal’ tso tsoissan i• théinn’ an chursad ton.

(Fate is like a gorilla in a cage – it throws dung at you if you mock it)

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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs   

bulbaquil wrote:

Beftokan's still a new conlang (only about 150 words in the lexicon to date), but it does have most of the points of consonantal articulation noted (linguistics is a living science in Beftok), so I'll list them here:

lip - èman [e_M.ma_Ln] (paucal: kaèman) tooth - ghîš [GI_Hs`] tongue - šuun [s`u:n] alveolar ridge - gìkew [gi_M.ke_L.M_L] palate - bugháth [bu_L.Ga_Ht_h] velum - ughom [u_L.GO_Lm] uvula - bháplekh [Ba_H.plE_Lx] glottis - durtan [du_L4.ta_Ln]

All body parts, including these, are considered to be part of the "human" noun class, and will decline according to it once I post the grammar.

-- Bulbaquil, 13 bhal. 875


Interesting! Thanks.

Boskobènet wrote:

I just thought of several terms one might include here. Not all of them will apply to all non-human species, but I've bolded the ones I think are essential, or at least very likely to be used among humans.

lip(s) gums palate uvula throat, esophagus ("I've got something in my neck" doesn't mean ... quite the same thing) throat, thrachea, windpipe breast, tit, teat nipple belly button tendon forehead temple bladder calf butt, buttocks, ass/arse pelvis spine, backbone skull rib(s) / ribcage


Interesting! Thanks.

Boskobènet wrote:

How could you forget "breast" and "ass/arse"?


"Breast" might not apply to non-mammals. Nevertheless it should be included. Thanks for bringing it up. "Ass/arse" should obviously apply to nearly any animal, even sea-squirts. Thanks for including it.

Turtlehead wrote:

Body Kanana -Blood vessel aka --Artery akala --Vein akawana -Material of which it is composed --Bone ohakao --Gristle or cartilage (sp? cartilege?) lahala --Skin lamaha --Muscle kako --Fat lapala --Blood koko -Trunk (torso) koho --Chest hahaka ---Heart 'alona ---Lung lana --Abdomen or Belly po'o ---Stomach 'ahakalo ---Liver lawala ---Spleen hapalana ---Intestines po'oloko --Waist hopa -Neck na'a -Extremity --Head opo'o ---Hair ma'awa ---Ear kalana


Earhole


Earlobe?

---Eye 'alo


Eyeball


Iris


Pupil


Sclera


Eyebrow


Eyelid


Eyelash


Eye socket


Tear gland

---Nose aho


Nostril

---Mouth waha


Jaw


Maxilla (upper jaw)


Mandible (lower jaw)


Tooth


Incisor


Eyetooth or Canine Tooth


Molar (and/or premolar?)


Tongue

--Limb ---Arm lana


Shoulder


Elbow


Wrist


Humerus (upper arm)


Lower Arm


Hand


Palm

---Leg wawa


Hip


Knee


Ankle


Thigh (upper leg)


Shin


Foot


Sole


Heel


Ball

--Digit (toe or thumb or finger) ---Nail


Fingernail


Toenail

---Toe


Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe)


Pinky toe or little toe


Other individual toes?

---Thumb


Thumbnail

---Finger


Index finger


Pinky finger


Middle finger


Ring finger

--genitalia ---female


vagina kala


womb halapapa

---male


penis ola


testicle paopao

-Side kaha --Back mola --Front moa --Left maoa --Right makao --Bottom (lower) lalo --Top (upper) lona --anus anoho


Interesting! Thanks.

Arunaza wrote:

Svannískar

Lik-hámar (body) -Flǽskar (flesh) --Bǽnar (bone) --Flǽskar (flesh) --Krígar (strength--muscle) --Tálgar (fat) --Bloðísøam (blood) -Búlar (trunk, usually of a tree, but also a term for torso) --Bármar (chest) ---Hérto (heart) ---Lúnġwar (lung) --Hrǽfir (abdomen) --Gérþu (waist) -Hálsar (neck) -Strǽkætiwir (limbs, lit. "extendeds") --Haúbuðam (head) ---Hǽrar (hair) ---Aúro (ear) ---Aúġa (eye)


Bréhwo (eyelash)

---Snútar (nose) ---Múnþar (mouth)


Kaúko (jaw)


Tánþar (tooth)


Túngo (tongue)

--Límu (limb) ---Ármar (harm)


Sklúðro (shoulder)


Urístir (wrist)


Múndar (hand)


Lófar (palm)

---Hýpir (hip) ---Kníwam (knee) ---Ánkulwar (ankle) ---Þýhar (thigh) ---Skíno (shin) ---Fótam (foot)


Lǽstar (sole)


Hahílar (heel)

--Fíngrar (toe or thumb or finger) ---Tǽhwo (toe) ---Ðúmo (thumb) --Fúlwatar (genitals, lit. "hiddens") ---Kwénir (woman)


Slítam (vagina)


Wámbam

---Mánnar (man)


Fýrnir (penis)


Bállukar (testicle)

-Síðo (side) --Hrýggam (back) --Faúro (front) --Hleúmar (left) --Ríhtar (right) --Bóðam (bottom)


Interesting! Thanks.

Waldkater wrote:

English - Archeía - Séillethear Chéighea - Trial: Sorosya Cheía


Not quite sure I understand. Are you talking about "trial number"? (A grammatical number for when a noun refers to exactly three items; distinguished from dual (two) and paucal (few).)

Waldkater wrote:

Body - elwer - ellor -Blood vessel - uía - clœya --Artery - súloŋ --Vein - coluía ("bluish blood vessel")

-Material of which it is composed --Bone - σá (σaxx-)/ σaxxode - shacchod --Gristle or cartilage (sp? cartilege?) - δoσσa - dóssha --Skin - sár (sarc-)/ sarca - chámha ["xA:w@] --Muscle - deuma - tóimma --Fat - gyom (gyób-) - ceóimb [cOmj] --Blood - sur (surg-) - tía [ci:@] -Trunk (torso) --Chest - ámos ---Heart - céo - chéomh [CE:w] ---Lung - sválode - sbállod --Abdomen or Belly - lomme - lóimm ---Stomach - byallo - beáll ---Liver - bóyar - póughar ---Spleen - quellego ---Pancreas - felgeustar ---Intestines - zoibe, unyode - dsóibe [dzObj@] --Waist -Neck - dyalle - áirdeall [Ar\J\6l] -Extremity --Head - oan (oand-) - lúivan ["lu:vj@n], mhand [wAn] ---Hair - fille - híll ---Ear - lωm (lωv-) - lúabh ["lu:@v]


Earhole


Earlobe? - tulma - tsulma

---Eye - sáde - sáitt [sac]


Eyeball - sassum (eye ball)


Iris - tiŋyen - tsínge [tSINj@]


Pupil - marya - máira ["mA:r\@]


Sclera


Eyebrow - círes (círeθ-) - chíreth


Eyelid - fánes (fáneθ-) - fáinneth


Eyelash - satwaco - sátmhag


Eye socket - sattuce


Tear gland - sádelos (sadeloσσ-)

---Nose - tús (túy-) - áippeg


Nostril - túyoce - tsúghog

---Mouth - beuta - tsúiga


Jaw - vaugo - vóugh


Maxilla (upper jaw) - arvaugo


Mandible (lower jaw) - survaugo


Tooth - náŋ (nág-) - nág


Incisor - ctainaŋ (cteinag-)


Eyetooth or Canine Tooth - sηnaŋ (sηnag-)


Molar (and/or premolar?) - aunaŋ (aunag-)


Tongue - maiga - máigga

--Limb ---Arm - lámo - láom


Shoulder - marθa - mártha [mArh@]


Elbow - láδer - láidher ["lA:j\@r\]


Wrist - gyalláδer - gealláidher [J\@"lA:j\@r]


Humerus (upper arm)


Lower Arm


Hand - gyán - geán [J\An]


Palm - yéna

---Leg - baŋ (bang-) - páinge, háidda [hAJ\@]


Hip - rωbe - rúaibh


Knee - nébos - néobhas


Ankle


Thigh (upper leg)


Shin


Foot - δos (δoi-) - dóigh [dOj]


Sole - sumba


Heel


Ball

--Digit (toe or thumb or finger) ---Nail - caŋ (cág-) - chág-


Fingernail - gyácaŋ (gyácag-)


Toenail - δoicaŋ (δoicag-)

---Toe - derdon ---Thumb - duntice ---Finger - dún - tún --My god, how could I have left out the genitalia?!?! ---female - quenwe


vagina - θeíma (vulg.: morma)


womb - urwa - urbha

---male - donya


penis - litto - líott [Lit]


testicle - byólos (byoloσσ-) - beóllosh

-Orifices --anus - roξo

Does your conlang, or do your conlangs, use any of these terms, or reduced forms of them, as affixes?

Yes, e.g. -los < loσσo (sack) in byólos 'testicle' and sádelas 'tear gland'


Interesting! Thanks.

Waldkater wrote:

The other body liquids you haven't got mentioned:

urine - fulbis pus - peugema


Thanks for mentioning them. _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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Waldkater Tšur


Joined: 15 Oct 2002 Location: Leipzig

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject:    

Quote: Waldkater wrote:

English - Archeía - Séillethear Chéighea - Trial: Sorosya Cheía

Not quite sure I understand. Are you talking about "trial number"? (A grammatical number for when a noun refers to exactly three items; distinguished from dual (two) and paucal (few).)


ohh... sorry - Actually I planned a third column with a third conlang, another unfinished daughter language of Archeía (I should have written "preview", not "trial") but i was too lazy later _________________ Sé da o• dáire an gudd’ a• ráilla. Hal’ tso tsoissan i• théinn’ an chursad ton.

(Fate is like a gorilla in a cage – it throws dung at you if you mock it)

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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject:    

Radioguy wrote: I should have my post here by the end of the week.

@Radioguy, did you ever post here?

Waldkater wrote: Actually I planned a third column with a third conlang, another unfinished daughter language of Archeía (I should have written "preview", not "trial") but i was too lazy later

Thanks. Do you have any more you'd like to show us now? _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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-Klaivas- Šalea


Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Location: Ebrauc

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject:    

Ooo, I forgot this thread existed! Please find enclosed (sic) the Yuiyo words for various body parts!

Head - dú Nose - amar Eye - škíol Mouth - armu Ear - níu Chin - va Cheeks (and side of neck) - súdd Throat / Neck - damá

Shoulder - issun Chest / Stomach - núa Sides - gatod Back - rammrót Hip / Waist - fúv

Arm / Leg - skaro Back of arm / Back of leg - orga Palm of hand / Sole of foot - ét Back of hand / Top (?) of foot - tull Finger / Toe - ram Knee / Elbow - aitait

Flaccid penis - pelúa Erect penis - lakkuš Scrotum / Testes - ssap 'Gooch' - emrát Vagina - tlaš a feu Anus - tlaš Buttock - mappíok _________________ Serali wrote: You ALL need to grow up!


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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject:    

cromulant wrote: My word for arm is khaib. I'll get back to you on all the others.

@Cromulant; Did you get back to us on the others yet? Or, how much of it is available elsewhere? and, if any, where? Thanks.

doctrellor wrote: I have a set of roots, with compounds to attach greater detail, like finger + nail = fingernail or mouth + lower = jaw or head + high = scalp/forehead and so on, so an amalgamation of roots or root/locatives usually does the trick (to get as specific as needed) for the Drem. I'll post my list sometime later/tonight..

@Doc; Did you post a list for Drem? Or is one available somewhere else? Thanks.

Goza Lesha wrote: (For Zevino'shoma) This will be different, as they are alien, and somewhat odd in their body structure. I'll come back for the rest later. These are the ones I have words for: Chest, Abdomen, Belly: Shigilalumaga Brain: Shogatu Spleen, Kidney, Liver (all one organ): Shetashu

All also do Muphridian, which is closely related to English: ---SNIP Muphridian---


@Goza Lesha; Thanks for the Muphridian. Thanks also for as much of the Zevino'shoma as you've posted. Do you have anything on-line telling about their anatomy? Or other interesting things about them? In re the Zevino'shoma bodyparts, you said "I'll come back for the rest later". Have you some more bodypart terms for them available somewhere? Thanks.

Radagast wrote: Many languages have bodypartaffixes that functions as adverbs of manner. He "headbutted" him for example. In mesoamerican languages it is extremely common. Whether they are adverbs or not is a case of definition but they modify verbs that is for sure. ... Mèlw: Seat of life: blood Seat of emotion: stomach Seat of conciousness: eyes ... (nawatl has life=heart/blood, conciousness=liver, emotion=heart/)

@Radagast; thanks. (Radagast the Brown, right?) Do you have more Mèlw terms online somewhere? Or that you'd like to post here?

Delalyra wrote: Vernaclerians believe that the stomach is the"mental heart"...it makes so much more sense than the heart when you think about it, anyways. In their religion, most of their matter came from their Deitiy's life-force (basically), so everything is their "seat of life"...and they know that the brain is where they think, sleep, etc...the "seat of consciousness."

@Delalyra; What else can you tell us about Vernaclerian bodypart terms etc.?

Eddy wrote: Well, so far, Socialese seems to be taking an impressionistic turn with a strong emphasis on personal meaning. So the concept of "eye" might be expressed as "It lets me see" and "genital" as "it gives me sexual pleasure". So far, though, I haven't worked out all the details.

@Eddy; Do you have anything else you think we'd like to see yet?

sintau.tayua wrote: The main Psinu belief is that there are three main parts of a person:


the physical body, exemplified by the hands (eg. "bring your hands over here" - come here)

The conection with God (this is sometimes used to mean your ability to love someone, because it is believe that this connection with God escorts your soul to heaven, so if it's gone, the person has lost their soul), exemplified in the brain (actually, they think it's just a goey good-for-nothing, yet God must have put it there for a purpose, so maybe it's our connection with God?) This is not like the christian 'Holy Spirit, because it doesn't help you in life, it just guides you to heaven.

The personality, the 'real you'. This is said to be in the lungs.


@sintau.tayua; What else do you know about Psinu that probably belongs on this thread? Thanks.

Old Man Neek wrote: TomHChappell wrote:


What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of life?

What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of emotion?

What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of consciousness?


My current conculture project is retooling a proto-language, so at the moment I lack a total vocabulary and am not too sure on how to expand the entire ideal. However, I would like to answer these questions here. The Paratinó should not be considered an individual, existing culture. There are are little known texts about these people, and what is drawn here is drawn as a common denominator from the cultures that arose from the Paratinó. The assumed idea is that any given emotion has three components:

  • A fluid (blood, semen, saliva, bile)
  • An organ (any of them, really; though the genitals, liver, heart, brain, eyes, and tongue are chief)
  • Direction.

This means that the path to any emotion requires one fluid to be filtered through an organ in a very specific direction. To make it simple, there is no simple way to say "life is seated in the liver," life can be many things. The fluid of blood is oftentimes called *adda sēυsŭ, or humor vitae. This sort of phrase stands side-by-side for the root for blood, *φĭlem. When one is lively and active, the blood flows through the heart upward. When one is wrought with anger, it is upward through the brain. When one is virile, it is semen (*adda tmilsŭ, the water of birth, or simply sθiwar) that flows downward into the genitals; however whenever when one is lustfull and simply desires self-pleasure, it is saliva that passes through the genitals (saliva being *adda gnāstıtsŭ, the water of desire; also aspa, spit) When on is empassioned with love, it is semen that flows to the left through the heart. Consciousness and guilt are bile (*adda graχwisŭ, the water of spite, or graχwisos that flow downward through the liver. When one is reighteous, bile passes upward through the liver. I hope this helps, and soon I should be able to expand the vocabulary to name all the organs.

@You, Neek ('cause there is only one of you); Oh, yes, it surely does help; thanks. Have you been able to expand the vocabulary yet to any other names of organs that you'd like us to see? If so, where can we look for them?

-Klaivas- wrote: Ooo, I forgot this thread existed! Please find enclosed (sic) the Yuiyo words for various body parts! Head - dú Nose - amar Eye - škíol Mouth - armu Ear - níu Chin - va Cheeks (and side of neck) - súdd Throat / Neck - damá Shoulder - issun Chest / Stomach - núa Sides - gatod Back - rammrót Hip / Waist - fúv Arm / Leg - skaro Back of arm / Back of leg - orga Palm of hand / Sole of foot - ét Back of hand / Top (?) of foot - tull Finger / Toe - ram Knee / Elbow - aitait Flaccid penis - pelúa Erect penis - lakkuš Scrotum / Testes - ssap 'Gooch' - emrát Vagina - tlaš a feu Anus - tlaš Buttock - mappíok

Thanks, -Klaivas-. I admit I'm kind of surprised the Yuiyo need a word for the gooch. I recall a discussion from my younger days about what to call the feminine version of the "gooch"; the consensus was it should be called "the chin-rest". _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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Amsel Ur


Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Location: Seattle

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:28 am    Post subject:    

The paltry list of bodyparts in Hantic. I must endevour to expand it.

Head kaif Hand kamr Eye axr Tongue lis _________________ _______________________________ Amsel

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-Klaivas- Šalea


Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Location: Ebrauc

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:30 am    Post subject:    

TomHChappell wrote: I admit I'm kind of surprised the Yuiyo need a word for the gooch. Haha, but of course they (I) do What else would I call it? Area-between-anus-and-front-genetalia ( etde-om-tlašos-om-[pelúas/lakkušos/tlaš-a-feus] ) ? _________________ Serali wrote: You ALL need to grow up!


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nebula wind phone Tšur


Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Location: Austin, Texas, USA

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:51 am    Post subject:    

TomHChappell wrote: I admit I'm kind of surprised the Yuiyo need a word for the gooch. I recall a discussion from my younger days about what to call the feminine version of the "gooch"; the consensus was it should be called "the chin-rest".

When I was growing up, the male version was a "choad." (Hrm, can't blame that on regional differences either, can I?) But since then I've been introduced to the word "taint" ('t ain't one end and 't ain't the other) which appears to be gender-neutral. _________________ "When I was about 16 it occurred to me that conlanging might be a sin, but I changed my mind when I realized Adam and Eve were doing it before the Fall." —Mercator

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-Klaivas- Šalea


Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Location: Ebrauc

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject:    

nebula wind phone wrote: the male version was a "choad." I've been brought up with the definition of "choad" or "chode" or however you spell it being "a penis which is wider than it is long".

Also, use thy "t"s consistently! 'T ain't one end and 't ain't t' other _________________ Serali wrote: You ALL need to grow up!


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Wycoval Šalea


Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Location: Body of an adult, mind of a child.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject:    

-Klaivas- wrote: What else would I call it?


Perineum. Having kids introduces you to vocabulary you never knew existed. _________________ wycoval.googlepages.com I must create a system or be enslaved by another man's; I will not reason and compare: my business is to create. - Wm Blake

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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject:    

Amsel wrote: The paltry list of bodyparts in Hantic. I must endevour to expand it.

Head kaif Hand kamr Eye axr Tongue lis

You're doing well in other semantic fields; and in this one you're at least four ahead of me. Thanks. We'll be looking forward to seeing/hearing your expanded list. _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject:    

-Klaivas- wrote: nebula wind phone wrote: the male version was a "choad." I've been brought up with the definition of "choad" or "chode" or however you spell it being "a which is wider than it is long".

Well, I wasn't "brought up" with the term, but I'd seen "choad" used to mean "jism" (or "semen" or "seed" or "ejaculate"(the noun)). _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject:    

Has anyone got anything new? Has anyone who hasn't posted yet got anything responsive to the first 10 or 15 posts? Has anyone who has already posted got anything new they haven't posted yet that fits in with the first 10 or so posts? Does anyone want to change anything? _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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TomHChappell Šalea


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Location: South-East Michigan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:12 am    Post subject:    

What would be better, to put this thread in the museum or to let it die? _________________ Sappho wrote: The moon has set, and the Pleiades; it is midnight, and time passes, and I sleep alone.


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Soap Šalea


Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Location: Soapatopia

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:16 am    Post subject:    

No offense, but I think nearly everyone will vote to let it die. It's not that it's not a great thread, it's just that hey, if we do it for this thread, why not 99 others? And then the museum would just be hard to browse though. I saved the thread to my hard drive though. _________________ I've always been an anarcho-socialist. There should be no government, and it should pay for everything. --- seen on alternatehistory.com

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Wycoval Šalea


Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Location: Body of an adult, mind of a child.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject:    

So what do you call the little divet in your upper lip under your nose? _________________ wycoval.googlepages.com I must create a system or be enslaved by another man's; I will not reason and compare: my business is to create. - Wm Blake

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Sano Šalea


Joined: 09 Sep 2004

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:17 pm    Post subject:    

Wycoval wrote: So what do you call the little divet in your upper lip under your nose?


booger slide? _________________


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Nuntar Šalea


Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Location: [16.50.72.0]

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject:    

TomHChappell wrote: What would be better, to put this thread in the museum or to let it die?

I was happy to move the kinterms thread to the Museum because it contains some very useful information on the way different languages divide up the "kinship space" differently and how this correlates to cultural factors. I can't see any corresponding justification for indexing this thread; it's a nice collection, but it is just a collection of vocabulary from our conlangs. _________________ Amaya wrote: Every now and then, the world tries to say something. I'm never quite sure whether or not to listen to it at times like that.


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Serali Šalea


Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Location: New York City

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject:    

Wycoval wrote: So what do you call the little divet in your upper lip under your nose?


A Uvula. Remember Google is your friend!


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Rav Shimon Endi


Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Location: Sydney

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:10 pm    Post subject:    

Sorry, no. The uvula is that thingy hanging down at the back of your mouth.

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Soap Šalea


Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Location: Soapatopia

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject:    

Philtrum. _________________ I've always been an anarcho-socialist. There should be no government, and it should pay for everything. --- seen on alternatehistory.com

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Wycoval Šalea


Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Location: Body of an adult, mind of a child.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject:    

Philtrum.


Obviously, we need to find a better English word for it. None of this Latiny-Greeky nonsense. _________________ wycoval.googlepages.com I must create a system or be enslaved by another man's; I will not reason and compare: my business is to create. - Wm Blake

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mavonduri Endi


Joined: 27 Aug 2006

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject:    

Cénárol

nava- foot (pl. navam)* paldo- hand (pl. paldom)* qar'ta- finger hir'da- head ristai- arm (pl. ristím)** nif- leg (pl. nífu)*

  • NOTE: These terms are pluralized in the dual form only, unless when referenced in a group of people
    • NOTE: Cénárol sound rule- ai>í

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Serali Šalea


Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Location: New York City

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject:    

Rav Shimon wrote: Sorry, no. The uvula is that thingy hanging down at the back of your mouth.


Oh then I have no idea what he's talking about nor what it looks like.

EDIT: Now that I've seen the pic I know what it is and what it looks like. Now I have a question:

What purpose does it serve?


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boy #12 Tšur


Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn/Vassar College, Poughkeepsie, NY

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject:    

Serali wrote: What purpose does it serve?


Don't think it has any. But it is a feature often affected by deformities, it seems. A cleft palate may extend the cleft onto the upper lip, thus splitting it along the philtrum (i.e. a harelip), whereas kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome lack the indent entirely. Also, anecdotally, a friend of mine used to have a convex skin-bump thing instead of an indentation (she had it surgically corrected at young age).

EDIT: now I realize you are talking about the uvula rather than the philtrum. but I'll keep my Record of Philtrum Deformities for anyone's reading pleasure. _________________


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Eddy Šalea


Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Location: In the middle of the American empire

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:17 pm    Post subject:    

Here are the words for body parts I have for Terpish so far:

Bol — belly Jok — eye Klit — clitoris Kof — head Kor — heart Liöshan — brain Mumbe — butt Piej — foot

Naturally, the Terps understand biology well enough to understand the appropriate place for the seat of emotion and consciousness (the brain). _________________


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Serali Šalea


Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Location: New York City

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject:    

boy #12 wrote: Serali wrote: What purpose does it serve?


Don't think it has any. But it is a feature often affected by deformities, it seems. A cleft palate may extend the cleft onto the upper lip, thus splitting it along the philtrum (i.e. a harelip), whereas kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome lack the indent entirely. Also, anecdotally, a friend of mine used to have a convex skin-bump thing instead of an indentation (she had it surgically corrected at young age).

EDIT: now I realize you are talking about the uvula rather than the philtrum. but I'll keep my Record of Philtrum Deformities for anyone's reading pleasure.


WOW! Another part of the body we don't need!


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Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Location: Sydney

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:00 am    Post subject:    

Serali wrote: WOW! Another part of the body we don't need!

Of course we need it. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philtrum for purposes of the philtrum. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvula for purposes of the uvula.

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Atalant Endi


Joined: 13 May 2007 Location: Island Star Cities

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:20 am    Post subject:    

Us most of all... think how unhappy we'd be if nobody could pronounce labials because their lips were too inflexible _________________ For Fergus rules the brazen cars, And rules the shadows of the wood, And the white breast of the dim sea And all dishevelled wandering stars.

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Qwynegold Gent


Joined: 24 May 2007 Location: Sweden

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs   

What's the difference between a vein and an artery? Also, I was wondering if someone could tell me what these words mean: gristle/cartilage, sclera, incisor, eyetooth/canine tooth, molar/premolar, shin, orifices? I think you've left out brain. Finnish and Swedish distuingishes between the back and front of the neck. Could you maybe add those, oh and back of the head too?

EDIT: And forehead!

Soap wrote:

--Fat blampilpim


lol

Sorry, I didn't intend to be mean, that word just sounds funny. Blampilpim. _________________


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boy #12 Tšur


Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn/Vassar College, Poughkeepsie, NY

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs   

Qwynegold wrote: What's the difference between a vein and an artery? Also, I was wondering if someone could tell me what these words mean: gristle/cartilage, sclera, incisor, eyetooth/canine tooth, molar/premolar, shin, orifices? I think you've left out brain. Finnish and Swedish distuingishes between the back and front of the neck. Could you maybe add those, oh and back of the head too?

EDIT: And forehead!


-Arteries are the blood vessels that pump blood from the heart to the rest of the body, and thus full of freshly oxygenated, bright red bood. Veins take the blood back to the heart, and are full of deoxygenated, purplish blood. -Cartilage is a connective tissue in the body. It's what the soft parts of the nose and ear are made of. Sharks have skeletons made of cartilage instead of bone. When you find some in meat it's called "gristle." -The sclera is the white outer layer of the eye. -The shin is the bony front part of the lower leg. -"Orifice" means any opening in the body, like the mouth, anus, etc. -The rest of your words are names for the teeth: On each side of each row there are, proceeding from front to back, two incisors, the canine (eye tooth), two premolars, and three molars. The third is called the "wisdom tooth." _________________


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Atalant Endi


Joined: 13 May 2007 Location: Island Star Cities

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:38 pm    Post subject:    

Ok, here's a tricky question*: where's the canthus?

  • extra points if you don't use wikipedia.

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Serali Šalea


Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Location: New York City

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject:    

Rav Shimon wrote: Serali wrote: WOW! Another part of the body we don't need!

Of course we need it. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philtrum for purposes of the philtrum. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvula for purposes of the uvula.


Thanks! Never knew that!


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Shm Jay Šalea


Joined: 14 Nov 2002 Location: 5.4.5.2

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject:    

Eddy wrote: Klit — clitoris


Now why would they have borrowed this word?

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Eddy Šalea


Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Location: In the middle of the American empire

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject:    

Quote: Now why would they have borrowed this word?


Same reason why English did? Actually, I was lazy and didn't feel like coining a new word at the time (happens a lot with Terpish). _________________


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Qwynegold Gent


Joined: 24 May 2007 Location: Sweden

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs   

boy #12 wrote: Qwynegold wrote: What's the difference between a vein and an artery? Also, I was wondering if someone could tell me what these words mean: gristle/cartilage, sclera, incisor, eyetooth/canine tooth, molar/premolar, shin, orifices? I think you've left out brain. Finnish and Swedish distuingishes between the back and front of the neck. Could you maybe add those, oh and back of the head too?

EDIT: And forehead!


-Arteries are the blood vessels that pump blood from the heart to the rest of the body, and thus full of freshly oxygenated, bright red bood. Veins take the blood back to the heart, and are full of deoxygenated, purplish blood. -Cartilage is a connective tissue in the body. It's what the soft parts of the nose and ear are made of. Sharks have skeletons made of cartilage instead of bone. When you find some in meat it's called "gristle." -The sclera is the white outer layer of the eye. -The shin is the bony front part of the lower leg. -"Orifice" means any opening in the body, like the mouth, anus, etc. -The rest of your words are names for the teeth: On each side of each row there are, proceeding from front to back, two incisors, the canine (eye tooth), two premolars, and three molars. The third is called the "wisdom tooth."

Thanks for the informative answer! The only thing I didn't quite understand was shin. Is it the name of the front part of the bone that goes all the way through your lower leg? _________________


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boy #12 Tšur


Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn/Vassar College, Poughkeepsie, NY

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs   

Qwynegold wrote: Thanks for the informative answer! The only thing I didn't quite understand was shin. Is it the name of the front part of the bone that goes all the way through your lower leg?


It refers more to the leg itself, in front of the bone. When I think of the word "shin" I think of how close the bone is to the skin and how much it hurts to get kicked there. _________________


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Imralu Šalea


Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Location: here

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject:    

In Zali ["Zali]


Body tem [tEm] -Blood vessel --Artery --Vein -Material of which it is composed pu [pu] (just means "stuff", "material") --Bone zaik [Zajk] --Gristle or cartilage (sp? cartilege?) --Skin --Muscle mad [mad] --Fat --Blood eik [Ejk] -Trunk (torso) jul [dZUl] --Chest bus [bUS] ---Heart ---Lung --Abdomen or Belly taun [tawn] ---Stomach ---Liver ---Spleen ---Intestines --Waist edil ["EdIl] -Neck stiv [StIv] -Extremity --Head pok [pOk] ---Hair iki ["iki] (= hair on head), tal [tal] (= hair on body, fur, general word for hair) ---Ear cok [tSOk]


Earhole cokdvad ["tSOkdvad]


Earlobe?

---Eye og [Og]


Eyeball ogwel ["OgwEl]


Iris


Pupil ognol ["OgnOl] (= "eyeblack")


Sclera ogaigu ["Ogajgu] (= "eyewhite")


Eyebrow


Eyelid


Eyelash ogtal ["Ogtal] (= "eyehair")


Eye socket ogdvad ["Ogdvad] (= "eyehole")


Tear gland

---Nose penk [pENk]


Nostril penkdvad ["pENkdvad]

---Mouth sab [Sab] (= externally visible part of the mouth, ie. the lips), cik [tSIk] (= oral cavity)


Jaw


Maxilla (upper jaw)


Mandible (lower jaw)


Tooth (!I think I had a word for this, but lost it when I lost my dictionary)


Incisor


Eyetooth or Canine Tooth


Molar (and/or premolar?)


Tongue lamil ["lamIl]

--Limb ---Arm cad [tSad]


Shoulder zut [ZUt]


Elbow cadwelik ["tSadwElIk] (= "armjoint")


Wrist logwelik ["lOgwElIk] (= "handjoint")


Humerus (upper arm) yalcad ["jaltSad] (= "toparm")


Lower Arm loncad ["lOntSad] (= "bottomarm")


Hand log [lOg]


Palm

---Leg duk [dUk]


Hip pois [pOjS]


Knee dukwelik ["dUkwElIk] (= "legjoint")


Ankle dezwelik ["dEZwElIk] (= "footjoint")


Thigh (upper leg) yalduk ["jaldUk]


Shin hilag ["hilag] (= shin, bony part at front), oboz ["ObOZ] (= calf, muscular part at back), lenduk ["lEndUk] (= "bottomleg")


Foot dez [dEZ]


Sole dezlen ["dEZlEn] (= "footbottom")


Heel


Ball

--Digit (toe or thumb or finger) ix [Its] ---Nail vask [vaSk]


Fingernail log(ix)vask ["lOg(Its)vaSk] (= "hand(digit)nail")


Toenail dez(ix)vask ["dEZ(Its)vaSk] (= "foot(digit)nail")

---Toe dezix ["dEZIts] (= "footdigit")


Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe) darix ["dazIts] (= "bigdigit"), dadezix ["dadEZIts] (= "bigfootdigit")


Pinky toe or little toe posxirix ["pOStsizIts] (= "mostlittledigit")


Other individual toes? xidezix ["tsidEZIts] (= "littlefootdigit")

---Thumb zadix ["ZadIts] (= "importantdigit")


Thumbnail zadixvask ["ZadItsvaSk] (= "importantdigitnail")

---Finger logix ["lOgIts]


Index finger


Pinky finger


Middle finger


Ring finger

--My god, how could I have left out the genitalia?!?! ---Female en [En]


vagina munu ["munu]


womb

---male az [aZ]


penis wung [wUN]


testicle

-Side vel --Back (!don't remember offhand) --Front (!don't remember offhand) --Left --Right --Bottom (lower) len- ["lEn-] --Top (upper) yal- ["jal-] -Orifices --anus dumfdvad ["dUmfdvad] (= "arsehole") --urethral meatus?

Other breast, boob bumba ["bUmba] arse, buttocks, bum dumf ["dUmf] skull pokzaik ["pOkZajk] (= "headbone")

As for the other questions - they are much like us, technologically and scientifically advanced, so they know the true function of each organ, but much like us, although they know the true situation, there still remain certain cultural attachments to organs. The heart and guts are the home of the emotions - the heart beats faster with just about any intense emotion, and when it gets even more intense, the stomach aches. Consciousness was associated with the eyes, although it then became associated with the brain because people who had lost their eyes still reported being conscious - the brain was the obvious choice, being behind the eyes, and able to see through them. _________________ ils wrote: Imralu: certified sane!


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Imralu Šalea


Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Location: here

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject:    

boy #12 wrote: I'll keep my Record of Philtrum Deformities for anyone's reading pleasure.


In my family, it was